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Posted by DickWiggler (Member # 378) on April 21, 2004, 01:44 AM:

I know this is a V.H. related board but does William Hung really deserve to have a best selling copy of his CD right now? I would have to say yeah, let him have his glory, I hope he gets to fuck some of the women along the way!

Posted by Atomic Bass (Member # 4) on April 22, 2004, 03:55 AM:

This is a prime example of why the music business is so messed up. Instead of developing great bands and talented artists, they spend a ton of money on W.Hung. Then they wonder why there are no more really huge new bands anymore. The last great band is U2 as far as I'm concerned. Funny that the only new bands that have a chance at being huge 10 years from now are from Europe (Radiohead and Coldplay). I think Hung is a great novelty act, and bless him for getting popular, but this is classic Record label exploitation, and they wonder why people don't want to spend $18 on a new cd anymore. Then sales go down because people are sick of spending a bunch of money on one hit wonders like Hung, who doesn't even really have a hit.
God, why did you have to bring this up. Russ and I have gone on forever about this topic, don't get us started.

Posted by JOHNNY GEETAR (Member # 305) on April 22, 2004, 08:22 AM:

I have to agree with you Joe.The musicianship seems to take a backseat as opposed to "gimmick".Foe instance back in the eighties I remember calling KNAC and always requesting for them to play the band RacerX and asking them why they never played them and they simply said that nobody requested them,I mean sometimes you would hear "getaway"by them but they had so many other songs more worthy.Instead it was just horrible "hairbands" which I wont mention any of them because I dont wanna be the bad guy here.But I guess thats because the ones calling the shots are the buisness men and noy the musicians.I dont know maybe I'm wrong here but thats what it has always seemed like.And oh by the way there is nothing wrong with "long hair" I used to have it too.

Posted by RacerXWebguy (Member # 220) on April 22, 2004, 10:08 AM:

I know..Getaway always killed me...it's one of their weaker songs. The only COOL thing about Getaway, was live Paul would pick the solo on his guitar, while Bruce stood behind him and played the notes. There's a (poor quality) video on our Cool Stuff page.

As for talent and musicianship. I'll tell you a funny story. In 2001, I picked up Scott Travis at his hotel on Sunset and drove him to the Whisky for their sound check.

As we turned the corner, there was a HUGE billboard of that rapper, Lil' Romeo, decked out in BLING.

Scott, from the back seat said "Yeah...you hone your craft over years, live in crappy apartments struggling to make anything....and some little kid gets a billboard on Sunset."

It was a sobering joke.

Posted by JOHNNY GEETAR (Member # 305) on April 22, 2004, 12:08 PM:

Yeah it's too bad,because they were so incredible live,there was nobody like 'em.I am so lucky to have seen 'em back then.Hey but there's always American Idol,ha ha just kidding.

Posted by jason (Member # 99) on April 23, 2004, 09:23 AM:

i totally agree with you joe...the industry spends millions on a dude like this when bands such as..oh i dont know racer X and thornbirds, have to bust thier butts just to get some airplay..that sucks! i had a station down here in san diego playing the thornbirds(the ducks when they were playing it) and that station ended up going country cause it was an indie station and got taken over..now i have to resort to 91x to hopefully here some new stuff..ah whatever [Devil]

Posted by JOHNNY GEETAR (Member # 305) on April 23, 2004, 12:09 PM:

Well I'll give it to William Hung at least he's not lip syncing the songs,if he did he could go under the name Willy Vanilly,yeah I know it's a dud but I thought of it this morning on my way to work.(cymbal splash!!)

Posted by PunkPrincess (Member # 223) on April 23, 2004, 04:08 PM:

Willy Vanilly! LOL!

I think William Hung is great. He isn't trying to create an image or follow a trend. And like Johnny Geetar said, at least he's not lip syncing.

He's also not a downer. I mean he is not out there complaining about how awful things are right now. I am sick of songs/singers that do nothing but complain. You know what, I know how much life sucks. All I need to do is turn on the evening news and get reminded of it. I don't need some dude or chick singing about it, too.

Hell, I complain enough as it is...I don't need music, movies, or tv to reinforce it. I want a positive example of what life can be like, how funny life is, and why we continue this journey.

[ April 23, 2004, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: PunkPrincess ]

Posted by MetalSkoolGirl (Member # 380) on April 23, 2004, 10:47 PM:

The music out today is so depressing and whiney. One of the reasons i like Metal Skool so much is because the songs are happy and make u forget about your problems.--"Don't need nothin, but a good time."

Posted by Vince (Member # 32) on April 25, 2004, 04:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by jason:
..now i have to resort to 91x to hopefully here some new stuff..ah whatever

Bro, 91X sucks.

How ya been?

Posted by red7of9 (Member # 394) on May 23, 2004, 09:31 PM:

I don't know if any of you noticed, but it appears to me that William Hung may have Down Syndrome, which would explain his cheery disposition and how people react to him. I have mixed emotions about it. I am happy that he is living a dream, but at the same time, people look at him as a joke.....how unkind. Let's face it, the music business was screwed up a long time ago, when ambitious business men came in and made it about money and not art. I always support indie bands that I feel have talent and PURCHASE their CD. As Rush put it..."but glittering prizes and endless compromises, shatter the illusion of integrity, yeah!"

Posted by SoCalChelle (Member # 15) on May 29, 2004, 10:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by red7of9:
I don't know if any of you noticed, but it appears to me that William Hung may have Down Syndrome, which would explain his cheery disposition and how people react to him.

If he does, it must be a fairly mild case. He's going to Berkeley, pursuing a degree in Civil Engineering. I think people react to him the way they do because of his positive outlook and great attitude. When he auditioned for American Idol, Simon started to give him a hard time and he just replied, "Well, I've done my best and that's all that matters." I mean this guy with no lessons, and in fact no TALENT, had the balls to get up there in front of America and take a shot at living his dream. Is he taking anything away from the truly talented musicians out there? I don't think so. If he has a best selling album, it's because people are buying it. His 15 minutes will be over soon, and it'll be someone else's turn. I say, let him enjoy it while he can and more power to him. [Smile]

Posted by red7of9 (Member # 394) on June 01, 2004, 09:36 PM:

Yes, there are varying degrees of Down Syndrome, just as there are varying degrees of Autism. Perhaps some remember the actor who had Down Syndrome some years back? Anyway, yes, he is attending Berkley for engineering, but by his own admission, he is not doing well scholastically. People with Down Syndrome always have a positive outlook and are very sweet. If you have ever met someone who has this Syndrome, you would find that it just feels good to be around them. Their kindness is humbling.